Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Canucks-Rangers preview - mega post - updated all day

This is going to turn into a mega post over the next 22 hours. I'll post any updates on injuries, lineups, or Ranger-writer bullshit over that span.

Speaking of BS...This is from Ranger-lover Stan Fischler at his blog at MSG.com:

I watched the Canucks lose a shootout to the Islanders on Monday evening at Nassau Veteran's Memorial Coliseum and found the Vancouver sextet competitive, but hardly overwhelming. Yes, Roberto Luongo is a legitimate Vezina Trophy candidate, but then again, so is Henrik Lundqvist. Plus, Henny wins more games than Roberto and, hey, Luongo couldn't even defeat Joey MacDonald in the showdown shootout duel.

The curious thing about the Canucks is that their beat writers believe they are a better team than they showed on the ice in Uniondale. On Game Day, both Vancouver papers treated the Islanders game as a virtual exhibition in preparation for the real test at MSG. And for a short while, they appeared to know something that The Maven didn't know. But Scott Gordon's Isles, if nothing else, compete. They overcame an early (MacDonald's fault) goal, scraped together a tying counter and extended the Canucks to the shootout where Luongo faltered and MacDonald did not.
Who the hell was insinuating that the Canucks-Islanders game was a virtual exhibition game for Vancouver? Not the Canucks Nation Blog, which Fischler was linking to. Whatever. He's high on the Rangers, who don't play 100% good hockey but still win. If anything, he has the ego here. I don't think many Canucks fans or writers develop that until we win between 6-10 in a row. We're too high on BC pot here to develop an ego. I kid...for the most part.

It looks as though the Rangers will not have Scotty Gomez playing until at least Saturday. He has an ankle sprain. Fine by me. I'm a big Gomez fan, but I don't want to see him skate circles around us.

I'm sorry, but I don't think I could handle watching Markus Naslund salute the Rangers crowd if they win. I don't even want him to put up a single point. That would make me hate him even more. We HAVE to beat these guys. There is talk out there that Curtis Sanford might play the Rangers and Luongo play the Wild the following night. For selfish reasons I would hope not. However, we do need our best goalie to play against a division rival. Stay tuned on that.

Alex Edler is no longer quarantined. He has recovered from the flu and will return against the NYR.

STOP BOOING MICHAL ROZSIVAL. From Brett Cyrgalis at the New York Post (saw this originall at Kukla's):
New York has the best fans in the world, and anyone who says different is kidding themselves. And at the top of that heap are Rangers' fans. They are some of the most passionate, the most loyal, the most supportive and, at times, the most harshly judgmental fans in all the world.
I don't think he reads much media on this side of the continent.
First Malik, now Rozsival. No love for D-men on Broadway unless their last name is Leetch, I guess.

Luongo in against Rangers, Sanford to play against the Wild
I guess Luongo really wants to play at MSG. Can't say I blame him. Gad I hope he out-plays Lundqvist.

Demitra practicing with the Sedins
I'm not a big fan of this move, if he plays on the top line again tonight. I know we are paying Pavol the big bucks and he is a top line guy in general, but I preferred seeing his success with Kyle Wellwood over the jive with the Sedins. The Dank-Hank-Pank line leaves Wellwood playing with underachieving guys like Bernier, Pyatt or Raymond. Raymond is pointless in 5 games now I believe. According to the Van Sun he was practicing on the 4th line yesterday. We'll see where he ends up tonight.

Mitchell defends Naslund's leadership
I miss him here because he was an exceptional teammate. He’d do anything for any of the guys. He really cared about what his teammates wanted. People didn’t see that part. People said: ‘Not enough energy, not enough passion, blah blah blah.’ Well, BS; he had that. He just showed it in different ways. (Vancouver Sun)
OK fine, Willie. But those ways weren't on the ice then. We see what he does on the ice...and it lacked passion. Not worth his paycheck in the end. Period.

1 win for the Canucks this season versus an Eastern Conference Opponent (1-3-2). The Canucks lone win versus the East came on November 15th versus the Maple Leafs.

2 wins for the Canucks this season when scoring three or fewer goals (2-6-2). That's not good, kids.

I love those stats under the "Numbers" section of CDC's game preview section. They can either fill your guts with confidence or shred it to pieces.

RANGERS DON'T ALWAYS SCORE A LOT OF GOALS EITHERHenrik Lundqvist mentioned to the NY Post:
"If you look back at the last couple of home games, we haven't scored more than one or two goals, so the defense has to stay sharp," Lundqvist said. "But I like that. I like the challenge. We don't really go after the big show. We go after the two points. It doesn't matter how it looks."
This could be a 2-1 kind of game.

The NY Post mentioned that 2 key Ranger forwards were benched in the 3rd period during their last game against the Senators: Aaron Voros and Nikolai Zherdev. Brandon Dubinsky and Voros especially were red hot in October but have cooled off in a big way. More on Dubinsky's November woes here. Zherdev was a risky signing by the Rangers to begin with. We'll see if he can play his way out of this. Keep up the lousy play, boys!

Yeah there is all this talk about the Rangers being first in the East, but look at how many games they have played compared to everyone else. And look at the Capitals and Penguins' records over their last 10 games compared to the Rangers.

Game Time: 4:30 PST

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At November 19, 2008 at 7:00 a.m. , Anonymous Mike said...

You should have heard Fischler on Monday night. He was out of control as were the Isles announcers. It took about one second after MacDonald's stop on Burrows for Jaffe (the color guy for the Isles) to bring up the Vancouver media.

You'd think they'd have thicker skin then that.

At November 19, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. , Blogger Sean Zandberg said...

Well there is plenty of reasons to be frustrated on Long Island...

At November 19, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. , Blogger Temujin said...

A little off-topic, but I found this kind of interesting. I remember watching the Ruutu Shootout attempt with you the other night, and had wondering whether it would have counted:

It was interesting to see the New York Rangers get all bent out of shape when Ottawa Senator Jarkko Ruutu fired the puck at goalie Henrik Lundqvist from a bad angle after initially losing control of it on a shootout attempt last night.

The Rangers were so incensed at what seemed like Ruutu being Ruutu that a few of them even tried to get at the abrasive Finn when the shootout was complete and they had to be restrained by the on-ice officials.

Well, guess what?

If Ruutu had scored on that bad-angle and seemingly late shootout shot, it would have counted.

If it goes into a shootout, I would hope the Canucks do a little better this time.

My prediction? 5-1 Canucks

Demitra (2), Salo, D Sedin, Bernier


At November 19, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. , Anonymous Mike said...

Temujin - I would love that score. Me thinks this will go to the OT or shootout. Or be like a 1-0 game. And I'm a bit concerned my ticket says "limited view" on it...it'd be funny if I'm behind a concrete post.

At November 19, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. , Blogger Sean Zandberg said...

5-1??? Are you mad? We are playing against Lundqvist here! :)

I'd guess 3-2 Rangers. It's going to be tough. Our PP sucks, Demitra is playing with the Twins again...

I can only hope Wellwood's line clicks without Demitra and that the Burrows-Kesler-Hansen line picks it up.

At November 19, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. , Blogger Sean Zandberg said...

Mike- maybe you'll be sitting behind a tall fat guy...
maybe an Amazon....

At November 19, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. , Blogger Temujin said...

I've heard Mark Messier's bald head will be making an appearance. Perhaps Mike will have a... errr... glaring view of things.

Lunqvist is gonna shit the bed tonight, you just wait and see :-)

At November 19, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. , Anonymous Mike said...

If I am anywhere near Messier I am dead because I'll mouth off and he'll kill me. What a way to go though, the NY Post cover would be epic.

If i'm behind a concrete post then at least I can watch the game I want in my own head (Luongo scores, Kes puts Naz through the glass, etc etc).

At November 19, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. , Blogger Sean Zandberg said...

Jin- hey! Leave the great Messier alone!

Mike- haha! Delusions of grandeur!
Maybe it will be behind a jumping group of cheerleaders..

At November 19, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. , Anonymous Mike said...

Sean - If ONLY I was that lucky. Who knows...I'm off now so let's see.

At November 19, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. , Blogger jimbuff said...

"Yeah there is all this talk about the Rangers being first in the East, but look at how many games they have played compared to everyone else. And look at the Capitals and Penguins' records over their last 10 games compared to the Rangers."

Look at The Bruins record over the last 10 games 8-1-1! Tops in the league - Capitals and Penguins????

At November 19, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. , Blogger Temujin said...

Yeah, but the Bruins are lousy and have a fluky goaltender :-)

I like these mega-posts. It keeps me coming back to see more updates. Are you watching the game at home tonight? Want some company? I'm heading to the Kemess minesite tomorrow morning and won't be back until late Saturday night :-( It would be good to kick your ass in NHL '09 before I go.

At November 19, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. , Blogger Sean Zandberg said...

Come on down, Jin! Game starts pretty quick here.

Jimmy Boy I apologize. The Bruins rule school, but I was only mentioning the 2nd and 3rd place teams in the East.
Go B's!
Tim Thomas is Luongo's bitch.
Luongo is god so that makes Thomas....... an angel maybe....as far as heavenly ranking goes.

At November 19, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. , Blogger jimbuff said...

The Bruins ARE 2nd in the east!!!

Fernandez playing for Bruins tonite and already has been scored on 4 times in the 1st - they should play Timmy ever game.Vancouver up 1-0 already.

At November 19, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. , Blogger jimbuff said...

Bob MacKenzie just called Naslund the greatest Canuck ever!!! What a doofus!

At November 19, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. , Blogger Temujin said...


Lunqvist is gonna shit the bed tonight, you just wait and see :-)

Yes, yes, yes. Shitting the bed is an appropriate metaphor, indeed.

At November 19, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. , Blogger Temujin said...

Dang, Wellwood should have a hattrick!

At November 19, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. , Blogger Temujin said...

Bwa ha ha ha ha:

I’m taking a shower. I feel dirty after watching that. Let’s see what they come up with the next two periods.

I think he'll need to take another shower! Let the gloating begin!

At November 20, 2008 at 12:11 a.m. , Blogger Sean Zandberg said...

Sorry, Jim. Boston is currently 2nd in the East. YAY!


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