Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Who is knocking Brad May now?

We are all wrong from time to time. And when Brad May sucker punched Kim Johnsson on April 17 during the Ducks-Wild series, it may or may not have been right, but it seems to me now that the biggest wrong was the press jumping all over May, calling him mindless, untalented, and having no place in hockey. I wasn't having any part of that and defended May on a site I won't name, and I received flack for it.
Well who's right now?
It was the likes of Brad May and Travis Moen who began crunching the Sens last night, hitting them at every turn, and like Getzlaf said, changing the momentum of the game. Thats right, Brad May. He may only be getting just over 6 minutes of icetime per game but really, his line could be used more. They also generate a lot of quality chances with their tenacious forecheck.
May was potentially wrong for his actions with Johnsson, and maybe he wasn't. I still say Johnsson was skating around the rough stuff and could have done something to antagonize an easily angered May. Who knows.
But it doesn't matter anymore does it? May served his sentence and was given another chance to play for the Ducks this post season and is making the best of every opportunity. He is also being a huge leader on and off the ice.
And the jackasses who called him a mindless, useless goon in April should now be eating a shit sandwich.
An even bigger 'fuck you' goes to the idiot experts out there on major sports shows, both Canadian and American alike, who called for May's head unjustly in a painfully bullshit attempt to clean up the game of hockey so that it sells in the States.
Go to hell!
The 36-year old Brad May has proved you wrong.

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At May 29, 2007 at 1:42 p.m. , Blogger Earl Sleek said...

I'm not sure if you're talking about my post, but even so, I still detest May for punching a career non-fighter in Johnsson. There really is no place in the "code" (or whatever) for that nonsense.

I never knocked May the player in that post, and of course am glad to see him playing well now (though his month of May is nearly over).

I still will say that those who attack non-fighters should be kicked out of the game--Brad May's heroics when he decides to play hockey don't really change that for me.

At May 29, 2007 at 2:26 p.m. , Blogger Zanstorm said...

Well, your post and others, yes.
It wasn't your post, it was the commentors.

We'll disagree on the fact that May should be kicked out of the game.
I still think Johnsson is guilty in a way as well. He was in the fray. It's not like May chased him around the ice.
If these little skilled wimp players don't want to get put on their asses, then they should skate to their bench during scuffles and stay the fuck out of it.
That would be a better idea to me anyways, because I don't want to see the likes of May and Simon taken out of the game.
They have use still, as May is proving now, and Simon proved in Calgary's run to the Finals.

Earl, goons are getting a bad rap nowadays and I'm not down with it. I like fighting, I like violence, and I don't mind seeing Johnsson get one-punched. Sucker punching is not a new craze in hockey. Intending to injure isn't either. Hell, Gordie Howe threw elbows with that intention. And he's a fucking hero.
It's just that in today's world with wimps, lawyers, and human rights, it's turning this game into a pussy sport. And I don't like it.
There are technicalities of the matter that I'm avoiding that are at the heart of this matter, Earl. Maybe we'll jaunt over those yet.

Long live the goons!!!

At May 29, 2007 at 2:58 p.m. , Blogger Zanstorm said...

Actually, reading your May post and the comments I really don't have much else to say about it. I stand by what I said then.

The current rules are fine when it comes to players blowing a fuse and hurting someone. The player usually admits he's wrong and it was done in the heat of the battle, serves his sentence and then returns.
There really isn't much to change about the rules, except perhaps a permanent suspension after screwing up so many times.
Sucker punching is always going to happen no matter what rules are in place. Some dickhead is going to get clubbed with a stick.
So please live with it. It happens, it gets dealt with.
I'm telling you right now, the more rules you put in hockey the more you'll fuck up a great sport. Cases in point: the instigator penalty bullshit and obstruction calls!!!

At May 29, 2007 at 3:46 p.m. , Blogger Earl Sleek said...

Yeah, I suppose everyone should be eligible to be punched out, but what happens when it's a Sedin? What happens when it's a Selanne or a Kariya?

There's guys in this league that really aren't about the fighting, and I don't really see why need to protect those who cross the line.

I think there should be a place in the league for a guy who intends on throwing zero punches and expects to receive zero punches in return. There will always be a pugilistic aspect to this game of hockey (I hope!), but that doesn't mean it needs to extend to everyone.

At May 29, 2007 at 3:56 p.m. , Blogger Zanstorm said...

But if the Sedin was standing there provoking me I would knock his ass out. The skilled guys can protect themselves to a point. If they don't want to get hurt then stay out of it. It seemed that Johnsson was in the line of fire.
Sometimes the diff between physical and verbal abuse isn't all that different. On TV the physical LOOKS bad.

It's a lengthy but great argument. I apologize that my words were that harsh though. Someone shit in my Corn Flakes this morning! :)

At May 30, 2007 at 8:51 a.m. , Blogger Jibblescribbits said...

I disagree with you on this one. I think May is a dirty player, and didn't like him on the Avs. While I think he has some skill and is more than just a 4th line agitator (he definately has enough skill to be on an NHL club).

While I feel there's a place for goons, Brad may isn't a goon. He's a 3rd-4th line player who doesn't really do fair fights. He's the reason there are goons out there. He plays to hurt others, and he rarely stands up to a fair fight. He will throw a punch from behind to an unsuspecting career non-fighter but when it came time to throw the gloves down against a tough guy, at least on the Avs, it was LaPerriere that had to step up.

He will talk the talk, and let others walk the walk. Hell when the whole Steve Moore feud happened before the Bertuzzi incident he sure went out of his way to say punishment was coming, but it was another player who actually fought Moore in that game before the incident (in the first period).

At May 30, 2007 at 9:44 a.m. , Blogger Zanstorm said...

Interesting observations you have of May. While his antics may lack integrity (getting others to do his dirty work), it's his job as an agitator I guess. May has fought many times in his career and backed up his words.

As for his calling out retribution on Moore, don't be so peeved about that. He wasn't calling a broken neck for Moore. He was saying that someone was going to beat Moore's ass in. There's nothing wrong with that except he never should have said it to the media.
As far as May hurting people in general, there's nothing wrong with that. This isn't ballet! It's fucking hockey! Players want to hurt eachother out there. It's part of the game even if it is dirty.
Many players have played dirty and hurt people. That includes Shanahan, Howe, Messier, Roberts, etc.
A sucker punch face-to-face to a non-fighter really isn't that bad. Johnsson should have stayed out of the fray if he didn't want something to happen to him.

We'll disagree for the most part as well, Jibble.

At May 30, 2007 at 10:16 a.m. , Blogger Jibblescribbits said...

He has fought before so he isn't completely a pansy. I wasn't saying that he was calling for a broken neck, I don't think he wanted that to happen at all, but he was calling for retribution, but didn't go out there and give it. He let another player fight Moore. (What I mean is that moore fought one Canuck earlier in that game, but it wasn't May). If you're going to call someone out in the media like he did, you better be the one dropping the gloves.

It's funny you mention all those dirty players, I don't like any of them. I never watched Howe play, so I don't know, but Shannahan, Messier, and Roberts are three of my least favorite players.

At May 30, 2007 at 11:20 a.m. , Blogger Zanstorm said...

AHA! Yeah, we are disagreeing on player preferences! :)
Actually, wasn't it May that fought Moore and lost to him? I forget already.

You didn't like Messier or Roberts? Shame!!!

At May 30, 2007 at 1:04 p.m. , Blogger Jibblescribbits said...

Moore fought Matt Cooke

Apparently May fought Worrell, so I guess May did at least fight in the game.

At May 30, 2007 at 2:40 p.m. , Blogger Zanstorm said...

Ooo..Worrell is a tough draw!! He's a beast!

At June 7, 2007 at 6:39 a.m. , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually May fought twice that game, he also scored twice too....and anyone calling him anything other then a tough s.o.b should go tyoe his name into youtube and see what comes up and if youd like to say what your saying on here to his face...Earl sleek you are a moron who has clearly neevr played hockey. Good Blog


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